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Thoughts? I thought it was a surpisingly good list--much better than others I've seen. I've actually read and enjoyed many of the ones listed.
Thoughts? I thought it was a surpisingly good list--much better than others I've seen. I've actually read and enjoyed many of the ones listed.
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Tue, October 18, 2005 - 1:43 PMI've read or watched the following which is a pretty pale version of the bigger list. Some of these are interesting, like Snowcrash, which I thought was great, but wonder why it got the nod for top 100. Wonder if the gathering was a sci-fi buff. There are several on the list.
The Catcher in the Rye, J.D. Salinger
A Clockwork Orange, Anthony Burgess
Deliverance, James Dickey
The French Lieutenant's Woman, John Fowles
Gone With the Wind, Margaret Mitchell
The Grapes of Wrath, John Steinbeck
I, Claudius, Robert Graves
The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe, C.S. Lewis
Lolita, Vladimir Nabokov
Lord of the Flies, William Golding
The Lord of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien
Mrs. Dalloway, Virginia Woolf
Naked Lunch, William Burroughs
Neuromancer, William Gibson
1984, George Orwell
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Ken Kesey
Slaughterhouse-Five, Kurt Vonnegut
Snow Crash, Neal Stephenson
The Sound and the Fury, William Faulkner
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Tue, October 18, 2005 - 4:53 PMIt's about what you'd expect from Time. Even the SF lean is predictably mediocre. I mean, "Neuromancer," but not "Stranger in a Strange Land"? "The Big Sleep" isn't Chandler's best, "White Noise" is hysterical and longwinded and "Deliverance" overrated.
Still, it's nice to see "Ubik," "Red Harvest" and "At Swim-Two-Birds" on the list. Those surprised me.
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Tue, October 18, 2005 - 3:05 PMI like this - it's a lot livelier and less canonical than other lists of its kind. Some of the books don't seem to belong there ("Gone With The Wind"?) but others, like "The Blind Assassin" and even "Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret" are really fun choices. -
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Tue, October 18, 2005 - 5:24 PMI completely agree. There are some fun choices. "Are you there God,..."is a surprising, but very intelligent choice as well as a brilliant book for that time and the current one.
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Tue, October 18, 2005 - 6:13 PMIt's interesting how many Joyce influenced books there are on there without any actual Joyce. -
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Tue, October 18, 2005 - 6:36 PMThe only Joyce that would qualify is Finnegans Wake (the rest of his stuff was published before 1924). -
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Tue, October 18, 2005 - 7:25 PMExcellent point. Thanks.
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Tue, October 18, 2005 - 9:08 PMNice list.
But where's
Maxine Hong Kingston's "The Woman Warrior"
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Thu, October 20, 2005 - 3:52 PMholy cow. they put a graphic novel on there. amazing. though i'll admit that it's one of the best ever written...
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Sat, December 10, 2005 - 9:28 PMyeah! that's a great one.
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Tue, October 25, 2005 - 1:44 PMA compilation of the best of the worst… about the best.
The following are excerpts from actual one-star Amazon.com reviews of books from Time’s list of the 100 best novels from 1923 to the present. Hilarious!
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Tue, October 25, 2005 - 2:18 PM*Laughing...yeah, I've seen tons of bad reviews of "The Great Gatsby" and "The Grapes of Wrath", especially. Some of them were downright hateful.
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Tue, October 25, 2005 - 5:29 PM>>The following are excerpts from actual one-star Amazon.com reviews of books from Time’s list of the 100 best novels from 1923 to the present. Hilarious!
Sigh. I'm willing to bet that about 90% of those reviews are from students. It seems to be the trend among some composition teachers these days to assign an amazon review. These comments are extremely typical of far too much of student writing. These are the sorts of initial responses to literature I get all the time.
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Tue, October 25, 2005 - 10:46 PMHAHA!! I swear, sometimes I look up books I love on Amazon in order to read the bad reviews. Then I judge the people who hated my favorites. I suppose there are healthier ways to amuse myself...
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Sun, May 14, 2006 - 10:54 AMHi-larious, laughed out loud repeatedly, then joined this Tribe. Thanks
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Tue, October 25, 2005 - 4:26 PMInteresting, I have a few comments. I wonder how much some of these were influenced by movies rather than books. For example, A Clockwork Orange and One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest. I thought with those 2 that the movies had more impact that the bokos. For example Singing in the Rain in Clockwork Orange is burnt into my brain and Jack Nicholson made Cuckoo's Nest into one of those movies that is etched into my brain.
The Hobbitt and LOTR were a series that I started escaping into at 9 years of age and were a wonderful fantasy world and I have to say that fellow Kiwi Peter Jackson really did them justice in his movies.
It was great to see Philip K Dick in there, but where were Heinlein, Clarke and Asimov? The laws of Robotics will probably come into being one day and we know where they started. I agree with Rockstar, when I thought of classics that I grokked, Stranger in a Strange Land was right up there at the top of my list.
Other classics which amazed me with their absence were Kafka's The Trial and Metamorphosis (which spawned many movies), Hemingway's Old Man and the Sea was especially surprising when on the same web page Ernest's picture was shown on the cover. Finally I would have added Frank Herbet, at least for the Dune series. What a shame that his son couldn't enthrall me in the same way with his ongoing books of the series.
Time really should have consulted us before they put this list together:) -
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Tue, October 25, 2005 - 4:40 PMKafka's works were not eligible for this list as none were written in English. The rules of the list allowed only for novels written in English and published after 1923. -
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Tue, October 25, 2005 - 4:43 PMFair enough, that'll teach him:) and Hemingway's favourite place was Cuba wasn't it?:)
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Wed, October 26, 2005 - 12:37 PMGeez, I only have 28 of them...of course, they're the *best* 28 ;)
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Sun, December 11, 2005 - 2:14 PMTrouble with these so-called Of All Time Lists is this: Time Keeps Moving Onward. So, it makes sense to say "...Up To This Point, In Our Opinions" in a box someplace on the cover.
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Wed, December 21, 2005 - 8:39 AMI wonder if there are any top 100s from around 1900. Would be an interesting comparison.
But to be fair to Time (the magazine, not the thing that passes as we speak), they didn't claim to be "of all Time." They made it clear it writing in English of a particular period of time. And they also provide a second list produced that makes it clear that biases (especially when you look at the non-fiction list) can "slip in" to these things.
But I find some of these lists useful. I don't use them to decide what book is better than another, but that they appear on such lists means they are probably at least checking out. I would not have stumbled on some of my current reading ("A Room of One's Own" and "Guns of August", for example) for a while without it. -
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Wed, December 21, 2005 - 8:45 AMPlease insert the phrases at the appropriate place in the above and get me some more coffee:
clear it WAS writing in
list produced BY OTHER "RULES" that makes
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Re: Time's Top 100 Novels
Wed, December 21, 2005 - 9:16 AMIMHO, East of Eden is a better Steinbeck book then Grapes of Wrath. The Spy Who Came inFrom the Cold seems to be very popular with the critics but I think it's one of Le Carre's worst novels. I enjoyed, well, every other book he wrote but could never get all the way through that one cause it was so damn boring. It's a fairly good list, though, but would better be named "this dude's favorite books" rather than "the BEST books". -
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Sat, May 13, 2006 - 3:24 AMI feel To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee is a classic.
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