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I just read this again. Every time I read it, I seem to have empathy for a different character.
This time it was Mike, Brett's drunken Scotch fiance.
I'm missing my reading group, so I'm going to ask:
What would YOU do if your fiancee's ex-lover were following the two of you around on your vacation?
This time it was Mike, Brett's drunken Scotch fiance.
I'm missing my reading group, so I'm going to ask:
What would YOU do if your fiancee's ex-lover were following the two of you around on your vacation?
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Re: The Sun Also Rises
Fri, October 21, 2005 - 11:40 AMgosh, it's been such a long time since i read this book. i used to be in love with jake, but that's when i didn't know any better. then for a while i thought i identified with lady brett. but then, again, that's when i didn't know any better. i guess that leaves the fiance. to answer your question though, i'd say something about it and ask what's going on. barring satisfactory answer, i'd call an end to the situation, (of course) depending upon how much hold my fiance had on me. i know, wimp! -
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Re: The Sun Also Rises
Fri, October 21, 2005 - 11:44 AMWell, thing is, he KNEW what had been going on. Brett and Cohn went to San Sebastian for a fling. Then she went down there again with her fiance Mike, and Cohn followed them. Brett told Mike everything. She even showed him Cohn's letters to her. -
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Re: The Sun Also Rises
Fri, October 21, 2005 - 12:07 PMi'd be out of that situation really quickly. but for novels of that era (and before), there seems to be this pervading sense of the doormat lover/husband or wife/lover. it seems to me like an era-specific thing. so while mike's character may not be sympathetic in general to this generation, hemmingway was probably just reflecting what's going on then. of course all of that is negated by fitzgerald in "the great gatsby." :-) -
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Re: The Sun Also Rises
Fri, October 21, 2005 - 12:11 PMSo you would just walk out? -
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Re: The Sun Also Rises
Fri, October 21, 2005 - 12:28 PMi just might, again, depending on how much hold someone like brett would have on me ... -
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Re: The Sun Also Rises
Fri, October 21, 2005 - 3:30 PMI dunno. I find it impossible to identify with any of them--they're all such unlovable people. My sympathies lay most with the bullfighter boy the Euro-crowd exploited. I just enjoyed it as a study of jazz-age slackers, all of whom were seriously screwed up and none of whom was ever going to become less self-absorbed or self-deluded. -
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Re: The Sun Also Rises
Sat, December 3, 2005 - 1:12 PMI just liked the prose of this book: so perfect, clean and flowing, apparently effortless. At the time I read it in early 2002 I felt a kind of romantic identification with the narrator's dry suffering. Also being British, I thought he pulled off Brett's fiance very well. As for Cohn, although a truly miserable person, the portrayal is brilliantly done. I'll have to read it again. I really think this should be recognised to be as good as 'Gatsby'. My favourite Hemingway story is 'The Snows of Killimanjaro', I've read that about a hundred times: I worship the story
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